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frankiewilliams
Newly Generated
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 15 Feb 2006 : 18:12:06
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I feel that Sylvester McCoy is very much Underated as The Doctor. He is my Favourite, and thats not becuase I grew up with him when I was really a small boy (born in 1984), his face used to scare me when I was little.
He brings a sense of adventure which alot of the doctors don't have. The way he says his words so fast, as he's building up to a climax, is very well acted. The interaction between him and his companion (s) is very good.
Just becuase he was the last Doctor in the television run, doesn't mean that he was rubbish, does it? Well I think no. He is a truely good actor, and plays the role very well indeed.
Slyvester is very much like a flip side to Patrick. (It mentions this in the book "Doctor Who:The Legend Continues")
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drwhofan
Wholigans
United Kingdom
1016 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2006 : 03:29:42
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Welcome to the board frankiewilliams. We agree with you 100%, Sylvester McCoy is a great actor, also loved Ace with him, they went very well together.  |
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Fudge
Chancellor
United Kingdom
1821 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2006 : 21:01:50
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| I was never really convinced with Sly. I thought he was very good in his first season (although the stories were a bit rubbish) and after that when then the makers tried to make him into this mysterious and manipulitive figure there was no light to his shade. He never seemed a rounded charecter to me. |
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koollectablz
The Great Intelligence
Congo, Democratic Republic of
920 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 06:13:10
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Who went into terminal decline with Colin Baker and life support was turned off with McCoy.
The fetid corpse incapable of resusitation for over a decade.
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slicedsilurian
Companion
United Kingdom
290 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2006 : 06:41:26
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I wld agree it did decline, but that was down to the production team IMHO, Insisting on weird stories, dreadful costumes and telling the lead actor which way to portray The Doctor.JNT did not help at all by bringing in the likes of Ken Dodd, Hale & Pace etc..it just became totally unbelievable.  |
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RADIATION GLOVES
Cyber Controller
United Kingdom
765 Posts |
Posted - 27 Feb 2006 : 14:48:08
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Originally posted by slicedsilurian
I wld agree it did decline, but that was down to the production team IMHO, Insisting on weird stories, dreadful costumes and telling the lead actor which way to portray The Doctor.JNT did not help at all by bringing in the likes of Ken Dodd, Hale & Pace etc..it just became totally unbelievable.
You, I would have agreed with you on the guest stars at one point. But watched in their right context, as a cameo role, they do actually work. I hadn't seen 'Delta' since it was first run on TV, when I got the vid I was surprised how good Doddy was. Hale and Pace weren't too bad either. It's always a gamble casting like that. I am still frequently gobsmaked at how utterly brilliant Nicholas Parsons was in 'Fenric'.
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Mick
Chancellor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Mar 2006 : 06:25:03
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Is Sylvester McCoy Underated?
No he was PRETTY poor ,at the time he was just NOT enough of a good actor.( Especially at conveying Anger or being upset .)
Obviously as pointed out ,some of the Stories he was given didn't help.
Although in the 1996 DREADFUL Tv Movie he WAS the BEST thing in it.
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how utterly brilliant Nicholas Parsons was in 'Fenric'.
Hi Duncan
He did Start of his career as a serious actor,although most people
would know him as the presenter of Sale of the Century or if you are
a OLD geezer like me ,providing the voice of Tex Tucker in Gerry Andersons ''Four Feather Falls ''.
all the BEST
Mick 
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Bobby M
Companion
United Kingdom
118 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2006 : 12:59:28
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I think he was the weakest doctor, but primarily because he was given the weakest material, which was infused with tacky new-romanticism. I think that if Colin Baker hadn't been kicked out and had carried on along his developing trajectory, then things would've worked out a lot better.
On the subject of people leaving their roles prematurely, Oh Eccles Cake, why?  |
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jay
The Master
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Apr 2006 : 14:37:44
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| i have quite a soft spot for mccoy,i didnt like his first season but i thought his last two were very good,especially remembrance,gretest show and ghost light,as with all the periods of dr who there are some great stories and some dreadfull ones. |
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drwhofan
Wholigans
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 08:11:33
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Originally posted by jay
as with all the periods of dr who there are some great stories and some dreadfull ones.
Agree, it's like that with anything on tv. |
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Trevor54
Creator of Small Daleks
Turkmenistan
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 18:34:04
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gemini2012
Mastered Materializing
USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2006 : 05:50:15
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drwhofan
Wholigans
United Kingdom
1016 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2006 : 04:09:31
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Originally posted by gemini2012
I rather liked McCoy. I know a lot of people didn't, but I was quite saddned to see him go.
Well Spoken. |
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Dalekfan
Dalek Commander of the Outer Galaxies
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Apr 2006 : 04:49:22
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Originally posted by gemini2012
I rather liked McCoy. I know a lot of people didn't, but I was quite saddned to see him go.
I was mainly saddened to see him go because I knew my favourite programme had just gone up in smoke big-time. |
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roytromlley
Timelord
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Apr 2006 : 17:41:49
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questionmark
Chancellor
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Apr 2006 : 03:17:40
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Going up against Coronation Street didn't help!!!!
McCoy did well in the tv movie. If R.T.D writes a part for a former Dr to appear in the new series its McCoy and Sophie(ACE) i want to see back along side Tennant.
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roytromlley
Timelord
United Kingdom
309 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2006 : 14:31:57
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| McCoy back for a special would be the highlight of the season for me! |
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The Master
Renegade Timelord
Argentina
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Posted - 23 Apr 2006 : 23:40:27
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| After the wave created by Tom Baker, Peter Davison rode it for a while, it started to fall and crashed with Colin Baker, the costume was almost enough to do it itself, then Sylvester McCoy was what was left washing up on the beach.... well it sounded good anyway, I actually like Syl, a step in the right direction after Colin Baker, but too late. He wasn't bad, but the writting at that time and the stories were just not that good. At that point they weren't able to bring it back right. I think Paul McGann was good, I'm kinda hopin they do some kinda pre-story fill in to the ninth Doctor, something with the time war to fill the gap between the "clasic series" and the "new" series. They could possibly even get a few more Eccleson episodes of before he met Rose.... sorry for all the digressing |
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Big Show
Companion
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 23:13:09
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| I liked McCoy (4 Feather falls you sure surely he isnt old enough) Ace was superb a great team as proven in the NA Books what couldd should of been not all the stupid happiness patrol rubbish i liked his 2 nd season love his 3rd |
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greystone_06
The Nth Doctor
United Kingdom
672 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2006 : 14:54:43
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| No I'm afraid Sylvester McCoy was in no way underrated. The main problem was he couldn't act. Oh he was ok in quiet moments, but the minute he was called upon to convay anger... I still have nightmares about that 'There will be no battle here!' scene in battlefield. Or the 'If we fight like animals we'll die like animals!' scene in the last one. Dear me, if you cast an actor to carry a show the basic requirement is: he should be able to act. But then he was cast by JNT who in fairness cast Colin Baker because he made him laugh at a wedding and Matthew Waterhouse as Adric. |
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greystone_06
The Nth Doctor
United Kingdom
672 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2006 : 05:06:29
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No I'm afraid Sylvester McCoy was in no way underrated. The main problem was he couldn't act. Oh he was ok in quiet moments, but the minute he was called upon to convay anger... I still have nightmares about that 'There will be no battle here!' scene in battlefield. Or the 'If we fight like animals we'll die like animals!' scene in the last one. Dear me, if you cast an actor to carry a show the basic requirement is: he should be able to act. But then he was cast by JNT who in fairness cast Colin Baker because he made him laugh at a wedding and Matthew Waterhouse as Adric.
Wish I knew how to use this system better, all I seem to be able to do is reply to posts not create original ones. Would some kind sole please E-mail me with one or two pointers. |
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drwhofan
Wholigans
United Kingdom
1016 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2006 : 12:02:29
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| Good old Sylvester McCoy. |
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roytromlley
Timelord
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 May 2006 : 18:14:14
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| I am always a little bemused by the charge that McCoy couldn't act. Are we watching the same actor?- the one who in quiet contemplation buried the Omega device, in superb comedy timing outwitted the Gods of Ragnorock and in desperate anger and frustration explained to Ace what Fenric really was. I get a little short with this accusation- acting is the art of convincing and I am never unconvinced or unimpressed with the 7th Doctor. Plus I have seen him in theatre and he was pure class. Anyone who doubts his credentials needs to watch "Beyond Fear" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118269/ when he starred as the psychotic Michael Sams. He scared the bejesus out of me! |
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Dalekfan
Dalek Commander of the Outer Galaxies
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 03:47:19
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I thought Sylvester McCoy was pretty good in The Movie, but apart from that, nah.
I have not seen him on stage, so cannot comment on that aspect of his career.
He was apparently quite good at stuffing a ferret down his trousers, though, and I certainly enjoyed him on TISWAS. |
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roytromlley
Timelord
United Kingdom
309 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2006 : 08:00:02
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| His portrayal in the Movie was better than his time in the series? That is rather strange. Looks like the same character an actor to me- just off the set of Fenric. |
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Dalekfan
Dalek Commander of the Outer Galaxies
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 08:43:22
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Originally posted by roytromlley
His portrayal in the Movie was better than his time in the series? That is rather strange. Looks like the same character an actor to me- just off the set of Fenric.
Each to their own, obviously, but that's not the way I saw it at all. McCoy's portrayal in The Movie had "grown up and matured" (even though it was brief), and was on a far higher plain than any of his earlier Who performances (I agree with Greystone06's comments above: when McCoy was "angry", he just didn't work for me at all).
Here he was pensive and a true mysterious "Time Lord". Oh, what could've been...
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